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And if you're just sitting in your little isolated cave worrying about the future, yeah, you're gonna go a little nuts. I think if we learned anything during COVID is that people will go nuts sitting in their little cave inside by themselves worrying about what's gonna happen. That is indistinguishable from depression, ruminating endlessly about things…

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We don't know, and therefore, we should choose to have faith that it's gonna pan out. That is my best advice towards fighting anxiety, is that you have a choice, to a large degree, of how to lean. Do you wanna lean into PDoom? PDoom is gonna happen whether you lean into it or not…

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You're not gonna miss anything. This is the part that actually grinded my gears in the early phases of this transition. Everyone was so up in arms that if you didn't... It's loops now. Oh, no, no, we're done with loops. It's graphs now. Oh, no, no, we're done with that…

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You might as well have been in the cryo chamber for 100 years

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It's startling, and I actually... I mean, I'm putting some of this on slightly for effect. I also recognize that it's okay to grieve for a hot moment. That's not my disposition. It's not how I…

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But it all amounted to this moment. That is, to me, what makes the entire journey so meaningful. AI did not arrive from the sky. It was not alien technology that had blasted through the universe and suddenly showed up on our shores. AI has been around for as long as computer science has been around. In…

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Yeah, I was contributing to the AI revolution right there and then moment.

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Take a moment. It's okay. Take a... And also, you don't even have to accept that it's all dead. Like, if you are still very attached to the hand chiseling, which if you'd asked me a year…

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... a little that I've not been more attached. But the reason I've not been more attached, I think, is that I found something more fun. And if it hadn't been like that, if AI had just replaced the thing I loved and gave me something I hated, I'd probably be a little bitter…

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I think Picasso is actually a good parallel because if you look at his early work where he learned his craft, it was painting realistic paintings, right? Like, he was training to be a master of the old ways of depicting reality the best way we knew how, and then along comes all these other forms of…

There are plenty of programmers who just loved programming right from the beginning, and they were attracted to the logical constructs and so forth. I mean, I've been there for two decades, so I get it. But I also think that you're able to discover new sides of yourself-... if you let it in. Again, I keep coming…

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It's crazy to think about now, but yeah, I used TextMate for almost 20 years. I used TextMate starting in 2005, I think. I helped get the first version out, and then I just wasn't interested. I wasn't in the market for an alternative. And it wasn't until the switch to Linux that…

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... All right, let's just call it programming. Programming with agents requires a different tool set. It really does. And the main change here is that you're going from single thread programming in your head to parallel processing. When I was writing code, chiseling it by hand in TextMate or even Neovim, Not that long ago…

That if you parallelize these things and you're not running one agent, but you're running a handful, you can feel like you're in a flow state because you're constantly doing programming work in the sense that you're making decisions, and you're helping either unblock an agent because it has a question about which direction…

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I love the fact that this agent revolution was kicked off in the terminal because I was already a huge fan of TUIs, terminal user interfaces, and the terminal in general. That feels like a, a really nice place to be. It's a beautiful place to be. The modern terminal is just a good-looking place…

You plug in HDMI, you plug in USB and connect it to the computer. It's like a KVM. So a KVM is a remote way of controlling a computer, but what's special about this is just how easy it was. You connect this thing in, you go to a webpage, log in once, set one password. Now this…

And the faster the agents run, of course, the fewer threads I can run, but at the current pace, I can run about 16 threads-

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I'm writing my lines. And over the course of, like, an hour, I will have written one beautiful controller, one beautiful model. Like, that's one file. And I've really…

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It is a nice shorthand. It is a representation or encapsulation of how much output that's coming out. Now, whether the output is good or bad-... is not a referendum on that. But I was producing and producing so much more now, right? And therefore I'm able to keep all these threads going. So that…

It loves individual tools that it can invoke through the command line, and there is no operating system on Earth of the majors, I'm counting three here, Mac, Windows, Linux, that works as well with that mechanism as Linux. Everything in Linux is either a config file or a CLI tool. Now, that was its main drawback five minutes…

You cannot automate the entire setup of your machine. You can't automate at all the configuration of Mac's default key bindings. That has to be a manual process where you're clicking with a mouse like a caveman to set up your machine.

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There are hacks. You don't have to live like this, Lex. There's a better... Actually, this is a great moment.

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Um, I heard it was your birthday. So I brought a little gift.

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We are going to get you onto the agentic operating system whether you like it or not.

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And I asked-... my friends at Dell whether maybe they had a machine that, um, I could get you for your…