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Now, I think there's a fine line between being spicy and mean. But it has to be in a good spirit. You can be harsh, let's put it that way. If you're trying to impart a lesson to someone you believe could actually learn it-... I actually don't think it's always the worst thing in…

You can separate those two things and go like, "Do you know what? It'd probably be... Maybe he would have an even an easier time getting to his objectives if Linus or Elon or anyone else in that position was a little nicer." But also who am I to judge that? Like, when you have the weight of that…

And even more to the fact you're just not gonna get those kinds of individuals being fully rounded-... plush, always the perfectly polite people. I mean, Elon has this line, "Did you also think I was gonna be a nice..." Or, or what is it? The

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... normal chill dude. What? No, of course you're not gonna be a normal chill dude. What, what would the world gain if we got one more normal chill dude and we had to trade Elon? Holy fuck.

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He's an Arch person. I... He's got the most gorgeous arc. So the world's biggest streamer for a while I remember my kids watching some of his Minecraft videos, and then he just gets fed up with that, does the wholesome thing. Marries-

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... a family man, kid, moves to Japan, and then gets so hardcore into-... first Linux, then Arch, then Ricing. Did you see his, uh-

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Absolutely best tier incredible stuff. And then he also becomes a goddamn AI man of the moment, building all of these systems, and you're just going like, that... What…

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Hugely inspiring, and should be hugely inspiring to others who sit in that moment like, "Well, I don't know quite how to program. I don't know this and the other thing." Okay, but if PewDiePie can build the Council of AIs with his bespoke, um, hardware here, then maybe you can also start on things…

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I do like that part of it, and then I accept the part that there's also a million people who think I'm the biggest idiot on the earth and I don't actually know anything, and Omakub's just a bunch of dot files, and-

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And a lot of it, I mean, is as often happens when someone comes in from the outside. I mean, I've been using Linux for two and a half years. That's not very long. Plenty of people in that community who's literally been running Linux since it was hard and difficult, and you had…

But also do realize that we can share the same technical underpinnings and then operate two very separate-... Communities with very different aims, goals, aesthetics, morals even, and coexist, and it can be beautiful. And I mean, that's not always what I get. Sometimes I get the other thing. But at this point I've been in the game…

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And do you know what's interesting about that is, like, this is the second attempt. So my first attempt was Omakub. And I was really happy with that, and I put it out there, and there it found a community of maybe a few thousand. Like, and that was that, and then it just sort of…

Because they have very different philosophies. The reason Linux is 40 million lines of code is Linus just puts all the drivers in the kernel. So it has everything out of the box, and Windows doesn't. A different, different approach to it, right? So sometimes the things that look like a toy, things that look broken at first glance…

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I do think that's the... We were already on the up, and then it changed to vertical. Because the other thing, and this was what I learned with Omakub and Omarchy first too. Omakub was stylish, nice, but familiar, is we're still using a conventional desktop metaphor. You were dragging your windows around. And I…

If you dismiss that first notification to set up a default agent, you're not gonna get any of the stuff we talked about. You're not gonna get the crash watcher. You're not gonna get any of this stuff. You're not gonna get... You can hand chisel all your plugins. Totally possible, right? But the reason people…

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Yeah. I think the good thing about my current position is I really don't need the money. So I get to build these things purely for my own enjoyment and purity of vision, which has this weird quality where sometimes when you stop caring about what everyone else thinks or wants or whatever, and you just pursue this singular…

Like I've been programming in English for the last three months. I've been reading a lot of code, but I'm programming in English. I'm telling the computer what to do, and I'm using natural language, and it is shockingly even more delightful. If there is one programming language more beautiful than Ruby, it is the…

Beautiful. It's beautiful. And I mean, the reason I say this in part is I always loved writing. I always just loved the English language-... for the sheer beauty of it for the sheer intricacy, for the depth of it. I mean, Ruby is a very expressive programming language, but it can't hold a candle to English. I…

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I think that's exactly spot on, and this is the fundamental misunderstanding that a lot of programmers have of AI, is that they wish it was deterministic. No, no, no. Temperature is the most beautiful part of the AI setup. The fact that it is not deterministic, the fact that creativity requires little tweaks in the…

The tokens just come out, and I'm astonished how the similarities seem so great, and this is also why I don't have any trouble at all recognizing these breakthroughs of creativity that I've seen with my own eyes that AI is capable of right now. 'Cause my creative moments come through the same kind of next token…