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`5:12:04`

A thousand years from now? Man, I'm having trouble predicting 12 months from now.

`5:12:11`

Oh, I'm gonna bet on optimism. I'm gonna bet on a multi-planetary species. I'm gonna bet that Elon gets that rocket to Mars, and we figure out how to bend space-time and discover some…

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`5:12:35`

I mean, that was actually one of my favorite episodes of Black Mirror, the one where they get uploaded to the 1980s sea town somewhere. And I just thought like, wow, this is both such a dark moment, yet also so beautiful in the shared recognition that, like, the '80s were actually kind of amazing. Like, I…

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`5:13:01`

And they say something about, like, whatever place and time you were in, the music you were listening to when you were 12 or-... or 14, 15, something like that, that's what's gonna stick with you. Like, no, I was only, I got to be 10 in the '80s. So this was my early childhood…

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`5:13:32`

I really don't like the '90s. Can we talk about this?

`5:13:40`

To me, this was the great turning point of nihilism. That both the music, the genre, the fashion-... everything turned from, like, this glamour, the pop, the optimism, even the yuppies and everything-... to grunge and Nirvana. And even though, I mean…

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`5:14:22`

Yes. I remember having these orange pants-... with, like, white dots on them. That was just a normal thing kids could wear in the '80s. I've never fucking seen that today. Or I mean, even in the '90s, it all turned just, like, Seattle gray. Great regression.

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`5:14:56`

Maybe I'm gonna skip the orange pants, but-

`5:15:11`

Anytime. Thank you, Lex, again for having me.