Eternal recurrence and future of human civization

`5:05:43`

Amazing. Very important to remember. Not wonderful, amazing.

`5:05:59`

Actually, Danish croissants are not particularly good. In my opinion, the only place you can find a half-decent croissant, of all places, is 7-Eleven, which is hilarious to me because 7-Eleven in the US is the place where, at least in Chicago, you'd go to get a slushie and try to avoid getting murdered. But in Denmark, 7-Eleven is this very upscale, super nice convenience store, and they just happen to make decent croissants. And it always baffled me that I lived in the United States for 20 freaking years. I have yet to have a single croissant that's even at the level of a 7-Eleven croissant in Copenhagen. That seems improbable.

`5:06:43`

No, I've legitimately considered hiring an investigative journalist to get to the bottom of this, because the number of theories I've heard have been all over the place. It's the water. It's the butter. It's the skill. It's the this, it's the that, it's the other thing. I'm like, none of it adds up to me. If it's the butter, can't you just import it? I thought I saw Danish butter in some supermarkets over here like Lurpak. So that can't be it. Can it be the skill? No, it can't be the skill. There are plenty of French people and Belgian people, the best croissant makers in the world, who live in the US. Like, what is the reason? And then I get the second thing, which is-... "No, no, you just haven't gone to the right place." I've literally gone to 15 of quote unquote-... "the right place," and all the croissants were shit. So before I leave the planet, I have to get to the bottom of why the United States cannot make a proper croissant. And I don't, I'm not even asking about peak French croissants, peak Belgian croissants-... which are the best croissants in the world. I'm just asking about the 7-Eleven croissant from Copenhagen. Is that too much to ask for?

`5:08:02`

It all depends whether it's lunch or it's dinner. If it's lunch, it-

`5:08:11`

Well, depends on what time of day you're getting murdered.

`5:08:14`

If it's an afternoon execution, I only get lunch.

`5:08:19`

And if I get lunch, it's at Louisiana, the museum in north of Copenhagen. I was just there with Jamie two days ago, and we go there all the time. The museum is lovely. We don't go for the museum. We go for the cafeteria. That in itself sounds crazy. Like-

`5:08:40`

... you're gonna, you're gonna drive half an hour to go to a cafeteria. Well, it just so happens to be, it is the best lunch I've probably ever had in my life. The chef there is just unbelievably good, and not only is the food amazing, what's even more amazing to my system thinking brain is that at any one time when we were up there, I think there were probably 200 people waiting for their food. And our food was delivered in five minutes. They have a small menu, and clearly they make it in bulk, and it's unbelievably delicious.

`5:09:17`

It's a cafeteria at a museum that happens to have the best lunch I've ever had anywhere in my life.

`5:09:23`

It's, like, Nordic cuisine, so it's, it's... A funny thing is the menu, when I look at it, I was like, "Do you know what? If I saw this menu- As a kid, I'd go like, "I'm not eating here." It's like, I don't know-

`5:09:33`

... root free fruit and-... and onions-... and all sorts of healthy stuff. That sounds disgusting. And then you sit down and eat it, and the angels sing. But it's even more particular than that. It's the butter. The whipped butter that they have there, the best butter anywhere in the world.

`5:09:52`

There must be some connection. But literally-... even in Paris, I've never had whipped butter that tastes as delicious as the butter does at Louisiana in Copenhagen. Literally, I would drive 30 minutes-... to have bread and butter at the cafeteria in Louisiana.

`5:10:15`

... and we had the lunch, and we were like...

`5:10:20`

This is rivaling the best tasting restaurants-... I've ever been to in my life, and I've gone to Noma a couple of times and tried what there is to try, and this is right up there.

`5:10:36`

Well, I think there's a lot of good options in Copenhagen, but actually I'll pick a place in Spain. So there is this place in Marbella called Puente Romano. It's a hotel, and down by the beach, they have this beach restaurant with fresh seafood. Unbelievably delicious. I'm trying to remember what it's called, but yeah, if you look it up, the beach seafood place at Puente Romano is incredible.

`5:11:18`

I mean, the ambiance certainly helps, but I think my taste buds are also just-

`5:11:24`

It's just really good food. Because for ex- that cafeteria, it is, there's a lot of people. Like, I wouldn't rate it as like, oh my God, this is just a place I want to sit for two hours. But the food is so delicious.

`5:12:04`

A thousand years from now? Man, I'm having trouble predicting 12 months from now.

`5:12:11`

Oh, I'm gonna bet on optimism. I'm gonna bet on a multi-planetary species. I'm gonna bet that Elon gets that rocket to Mars, and we figure out how to bend space-time and discover some wormholes or, or something.

`5:12:35`

I mean, that was actually one of my favorite episodes of Black Mirror, the one where they get uploaded to the 1980s sea town somewhere. And I just thought like, wow, this is both such a dark moment, yet also so beautiful in the shared recognition that, like, the '80s were actually kind of amazing. Like, I don't have a lot of nostalgia for many moments, but I do have nostalgia for the '80s.

`5:13:01`

And they say something about, like, whatever place and time you were in, the music you were listening to when you were 12 or-... or 14, 15, something like that, that's what's gonna stick with you. Like, no, I was only, I got to be 10 in the '80s. So this was my early childhood, and I still have an unbelievably fond affiliation with the '80s. So if I'm gonna be uploaded to the sky-

`5:13:32`

I really don't like the '90s. Can we talk about this?

`5:13:40`

To me, this was the great turning point of nihilism. That both the music, the genre, the fashion-... everything turned from, like, this glamour, the pop, the optimism, even the yuppies and everything-... to grunge and Nirvana. And even though, I mean, I like the music, I don't like the ethics. I don't like-... the morals. I don't like any of the underpinnings to it. There was just such a defeatism to it-... that in retrospect, I look back upon it, if I'm gonna get reinserted into the matrix, it's gonna be the '80s.

`5:14:22`

Yes. I remember having these orange pants-... with, like, white dots on them. That was just a normal thing kids could wear in the '80s. I've never fucking seen that today. Or I mean, even in the '90s, it all turned just, like, Seattle gray. Great regression.

`5:14:56`

Maybe I'm gonna skip the orange pants, but-

`5:15:11`

Anytime. Thank you, Lex, again for having me.